WOOO I LOVE BURROWS VN...god this newest update was so good hiro is probably my favourite route so far (they're all so amazing tho) i can't wait for more....this is quickly rising in the ranks of my favourite VNs definitely in my top 5
I personally don't give a flying fuck whether Hiro is trans or not, I love all the characters equally (even the annoying ones like Cesar) and if there's a hole then there's a goal.
Ngl I had been losing interest a little bit in terms of how the surreal elements of the story were implemented, but, I loved the new intro and thought it did a way better job of setting up the rest of the story, or at least what I can picture of it at the moment. Although it somewhat concerns me just how much attention is brought to his body in only that first day, I absolutely love Hiro and he's probably my favorite character so far aside from Grey. I like that he is highly intelligent but also doesn't scoff at superstition or personal beliefs.
The surreal elements were your problem? For me it's that the routes seem so sequestered so far (being in entirely different time periods isn't helping).
I just thought that Virgil in particular, and the means by which Grey is able to actually meet the other characters felt like it could have done with more explanation previously, while still keeping it as a point of intrigue of course. I think the new opener does that, by giving a little more information to go off of and solidifying what I personally feel like Virgil's role in the story is, where previously I had no clue if he was meant to be an actual antagonistic force, or just using a very powerful motivator on Grey (fear). In the other routes, there isn't as much going on with the surreal elements, aside from Mark's, so having more of those scenes in Hiro's route also made it seem like it was a bigger part of the story overall, as opposed to just like, the plot device by which things are happening. Like the ending scene of this build was cool, albeit confusing.
I think the reason we see more of that in Mark's route is because it was the one that got the most updates so far. Personally, i really like the intrigue as to what even are Virgil's intentions with this, but i don't expect to learn anything until much further in development still. At this stage though, i do think the story is intentionally vague so as to leave us guessing and trying to figure things out on our own. Which, understandably, can feel a bit uncomfortable since we have to wait for new updates to get more pieces of the puzzle.
Ken seems to have a bipolar disorder or double personality. For now i would say he is more of a loose cannon. It's hard to say how much of what he does is him.
Mark though, if he is indeed the perpretator of things the story has implied there's no excuse. Emotional trauma doesn't absolve you from culpability, it merely gives context.
We often equate character routes to romantic routes, but that doesn't have to always be the case. It's not impossible for Grey to not end up with any of the main characters, because that might not be the point to the story. Considering what's been presented so far, the goal seems for Grey to save those characters, potentially from themselves, and in turn learn to value his own.
from where your at I believe there isn’t a problem it’s just the transition between that part is a cut scene, the screen just goes black for while. I was at this point and thought it was a glitch so I just tuned on skip seen text making sure it wasn’t. yeah either wait for the scene to finish or turn on skip to continue the story skipping the cut scene
Each route is not just unique for how well developed the characters are, but they each invoke such strong and contrasting vibes that every route makes it feel as if we're jumping into a whole new universe! UwU amaaazing work as always~! n_n/ While Ken is my all time favourite, I honestly can't wait to spend more time with ANY of the boys~ :p
Finished playing the new build, I'm loving Hiro's route so far! Spoilers obviously I'm a bit confused about the timeframe of which his story takes place, but based on some dialogue, I'm guessing it's actually before Grey was born/during his time as a child? I might be completely wrong though. Still, I can't wait to see how his route progresses, the fairy stuff is intriguing so far!
So far I'm liking the Hiro update. When I saw the bandages I immediately knew what's going on. I was shocked but at the same time very intrigued. Fortunately I don't play these game purely for the smut and I'm open minded to how the creator wants to make thier characters. Considering the MP is pansexual, this will be very interesting how this will pan out.
Seeing how dense some complainers have been, thinking it's okay to flaunt their prejudice as if it was valid criticism. I'm compelled to spell out my support for this project, which was already fantastic from the very first build, in including trans represation in one of the main characters. I thank you for trying to write about them in spite of the uneasiness it may cause. They really deserve a lot more visibility than they get, because our lgbtqiapn+ community not only involves many more people than just the g, it was trans people who took the first steps to make it happen in the first place. Here's hoping for a day when people won't dare to marginalize our own pride.
His route, the narrative exclusevely referred to hiro with he/him pronouns. And yes, there is just so much that can be explored about what people like him go through that's new and fresh, so many things to learn. It's such a waste of potential to not have stories that dare to approach this topic.
Yes, i saw it. You corrected yourself within the next comment, which i upvoted. This is the exact reason visibility to these people is necessary, so it's normalized. I understand that from how little contact we all have with them, it can be a bit confusing and even uncomfortable at first. The fact society neglects to aknowledge their existence, means that a lot of us don't know how to properly interact with them in a respectful manner.
Hiro's route is fantastic, theirs this lost sense of dramatic irony that makes his route more intriguing, but to me if you translate what everyone says, kind of loses that aspect of how Grey feels in situations where he feels lost. The hints the story gives along the way, is like the story allowing you to see the full puzzle, foreshadowing what might happen later on in the chapters. Overall this VN is indeed my favorites. every route has me quenched for more.
You have your right to speak your mind. There's nothing wrong with that.
And, dissapointment? I won't mince my words: after this update my interest in Hiro dropped to zero, sadly. I may follow the route just for the writing, tho.
Same, dude. At first I liked his charming character and wit, the way he acted, and also I really like his appearance. But when we found out he might be trans… it was very, very unexpected and confusing. Maybe it's just not my thing. I thought about it for a while and I think it doesn't really matter. It's good if you like him as a good character and not just as a sexual interest. You may not like trans, and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't hate or harm anyone. Peace.
I was kinda hoping the chest wound was some work-related injury, and both the hips and "smell" thing some related to foxes and the like.
Honestly, I feel a lot like when Shang fell in love with Ping...only to realize that he had been deceived and that the "he" was actually a "she".
And my major issue is how...out of place his...particular situation seems to be. That sort of surgeries are from the 50's onwards. Seeing it on the mid-30s (the zeppelins around make it impossible being a later date) is a bit hard to believe.
All of this makes his condition feel a bit forced and quite shoehorned in, as it makes no sense, at least in that specific date. If his route were to take place, say, on the 70s, it wouldn't be an issue.
I probably overlooked that. I always associate the term "experimental" in surgeries with cancer, life-threatening injuries or congenital issues.
Though, there is a small issue *coughs and hums* that must be noticed even if we ignore the primary and secondary sexual characteristics. Unless male and female foxes just happen to have the same pitch of voices.
With all this said, that doesn't makes my dissapointment smaller. What is done, is done, since it was the writer's prerrogative after all.
ok ive decided to only play this game at night, i tried playing during morning right now but i feel as if the creepy vibes + everything else just comes off so much more better at night.
I once thought the same about Cliff in the smoke room, but now his story line is my favorite of the four... I think the down votes are more for the fact that the authors of these stories work so hard to entertain us and no one wants to see anything that might disparage them from doing so.
i dont know what the fuck i was getting into, but it wasnt fucking this. i made it to the first major choice i had to make, and i legitimately did not want to choose. In the course of about an hour this made me feel anxiety, terrified me, and even tear up. bad choice to decide to play when i was about to sleep, cause now i ain't sleeping. dont know what you did, but please keep it up
Thanks for clarifying, sorry if i misunderstood. I played days ago enjoyed the game but was a little sceptical, and you're right our/italy past and performance wasn't so good and today can be bad too.. Searching now i seeing you're Rosato creator comic artwork lol. My bad 3:
I believe once you go past the normal 10 pages it will go further, but ideally people tend to overwrite old saves with new ones so you shouldn't need more than a few pages ma
oh ok thanks I didn't know about that. And again I really love this VN so much I found out about this VN from Blaidd it's thanks to him I was able to find this great VN. Please keep up the great work 😁👍
how do you delete saves? i was wanting to move them around to make space to keep saves for each character separate but i don't see a way to delete the old ones after doing that. only way to save over it?
Scroll over to the save with your mouse and hit the Del button. It should ask if you wish to delete the save. Note: this is for windows. I'm not sure how on other devices, I've only got a windows computer.
I haven't completed Mark's route yet, as he's being covered by a YouTuber I'm watching, but Ken and Gabriel's routes were very good. I'm excited for the next updates, and I'll check out the side stories once the youtuber finishes what's there of Mark's route cause I'm pretty sure he'll be involved from what I accidentally caught from the not-so-well-hidden spoilers below.
oh i watch him vivian jade, drakewinggaming, fallenwolf. depends who done video and game. blaidd is good for these kind of games but seems to be slower to do videos. vivian is good if you can get past some of the humor and stuff. drakewinggaming good but videos kinda short to me and stops at odd times because uses timer and stops after that. since you asked him thought you would like to know some i follow i guess.
Just 'finished' 'all' routes of Burrows. I'm glad that this VN has completely different story in each routes. I often get too attached to a routes on every VNs, to the point I can't take another routes. I'll wait patiently the last main love-interest in public release. When and where Grey will be dropped in this new route? How's the look of his card?
Note: I think, I found a plot hole in Ken's route. There is no conversation about the current year in his route. They only talked about Ken's age and it suddenly jotted in the timeline. Isn't supposed Grey didn't know what time is his in when we choose Ken's route yet, right?
Well, you have a point. It's help me to know when is Ken route happens. Even with those clues (Ken's age and DoB shows that you mentioned), I don't know what time is Grey in. I don't have any ideas what America looks like on 1958.
Mark my man what in the crazy ass bitch omg, since the beginning Mark looked like he had some shady things goin on, the way he spoke and openess to someone that could be easely manipulated got me worried really quick and oh damn It was worse than I thouth. I'm loving the characthers and the way the story is being told aside from the CRAZY good art of Nikko. Really one of the best VN's :D
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WOOO I LOVE BURROWS VN...god this newest update was so good hiro is probably my favourite route so far (they're all so amazing tho) i can't wait for more....this is quickly rising in the ranks of my favourite VNs definitely in my top 5
I personally don't give a flying fuck whether Hiro is trans or not, I love all the characters equally (even the annoying ones like Cesar) and if there's a hole then there's a goal.
Oh my gosh I can't stop laughing! XD
Do you know where to find the music of the menu pls?
Here it is!
gracias amigos!
Ngl I had been losing interest a little bit in terms of how the surreal elements of the story were implemented, but, I loved the new intro and thought it did a way better job of setting up the rest of the story, or at least what I can picture of it at the moment. Although it somewhat concerns me just how much attention is brought to his body in only that first day, I absolutely love Hiro and he's probably my favorite character so far aside from Grey. I like that he is highly intelligent but also doesn't scoff at superstition or personal beliefs.
The surreal elements were your problem? For me it's that the routes seem so sequestered so far (being in entirely different time periods isn't helping).
I just thought that Virgil in particular, and the means by which Grey is able to actually meet the other characters felt like it could have done with more explanation previously, while still keeping it as a point of intrigue of course. I think the new opener does that, by giving a little more information to go off of and solidifying what I personally feel like Virgil's role in the story is, where previously I had no clue if he was meant to be an actual antagonistic force, or just using a very powerful motivator on Grey (fear). In the other routes, there isn't as much going on with the surreal elements, aside from Mark's, so having more of those scenes in Hiro's route also made it seem like it was a bigger part of the story overall, as opposed to just like, the plot device by which things are happening. Like the ending scene of this build was cool, albeit confusing.
I think the reason we see more of that in Mark's route is because it was the one that got the most updates so far. Personally, i really like the intrigue as to what even are Virgil's intentions with this, but i don't expect to learn anything until much further in development still. At this stage though, i do think the story is intentionally vague so as to leave us guessing and trying to figure things out on our own. Which, understandably, can feel a bit uncomfortable since we have to wait for new updates to get more pieces of the puzzle.
Ken has issues that could have made him so much worse.
Just a guess but Mark might have some kind of emotion problem.
"Problems" might be the common thread but that's so vague I'm not sure about counting it myself.
Ken seems to have a bipolar disorder or double personality. For now i would say he is more of a loose cannon. It's hard to say how much of what he does is him.
Mark though, if he is indeed the perpretator of things the story has implied there's no excuse. Emotional trauma doesn't absolve you from culpability, it merely gives context.
We often equate character routes to romantic routes, but that doesn't have to always be the case. It's not impossible for Grey to not end up with any of the main characters, because that might not be the point to the story. Considering what's been presented so far, the goal seems for Grey to save those characters, potentially from themselves, and in turn learn to value his own.
I didn't mean emotional TRAUMA. I meant it's like he's apathetic or intense with almost no middle.
i could b wrong but as someone with a low empathy disorder i think mark is a sociopath
That too possibly.
the amount of attention to detail that goes into this VN is absolutely astounding
Anyone else having problems with the scene after this on Android?
Like crashing? Hiccups (lag)? Some kind of display error?
It goes to a black screen right after this scene
it just does that for a few seconds to make the elevator ride seem uncomfortable, it's part of the story and after a few seconds just click again.
from where your at I believe there isn’t a problem it’s just the transition between that part is a cut scene, the screen just goes black for while. I was at this point and thought it was a glitch so I just tuned on skip seen text making sure it wasn’t. yeah either wait for the scene to finish or turn on skip to continue the story skipping the cut scene
I can't turn on skip when I get there
Sooo... the music. Is it sold anywhere?
The tracks I can't find in the folders I mean.
Was kind of hoping for something more like an album but thanks.
... Where's the one that plays in the rain? From the prologue.
Okay that's technically correct thanks but I meant the barely audible... can it be called jazz playing on the way to the bar.
I think it played one night in Gabe's route too.
Each route is not just unique for how well developed the characters are, but they each invoke such strong and contrasting vibes that every route makes it feel as if we're jumping into a whole new universe! UwU amaaazing work as always~! n_n/ While Ken is my all time favourite, I honestly can't wait to spend more time with ANY of the boys~ :p
Finished playing the new build, I'm loving Hiro's route so far!
Spoilers obviouslyI'm a bit confused about the timeframe of which his story takes place, but based on some dialogue, I'm guessing it's actually before Grey was born/during his time as a child? I might be completely wrong though. Still, I can't wait to see how his route progresses, the fairy stuff is intriguing so far!Near 1928, I think. Or 1936-38, depends on Zeppelin model - LZ129 or LZ130, I think.
Oh so closer to his actual time then, that's interesting!
Also here to spell my support for Hiro's route! Thank you, Nikko, for your wonderful characters & story you are putting out for us.
So far I'm liking the Hiro update. When I saw the bandages I immediately knew what's going on. I was shocked but at the same time very intrigued. Fortunately I don't play these game purely for the smut and I'm open minded to how the creator wants to make thier characters. Considering the MP is pansexual, this will be very interesting how this will pan out.
Seeing how dense some complainers have been, thinking it's okay to flaunt their prejudice as if it was valid criticism. I'm compelled to spell out my support for this project, which was already fantastic from the very first build, in including trans represation in one of the main characters. I thank you for trying to write about them in spite of the uneasiness it may cause. They really deserve a lot more visibility than they get, because our lgbtqiapn+ community not only involves many more people than just the g, it was trans people who took the first steps to make it happen in the first place. Here's hoping for a day when people won't dare to marginalize our own pride.
Indeed, Hiro's route is a surprise. But, isn't it make his (or their) route become more interesting?
His route, the narrative exclusevely referred to hiro with he/him pronouns. And yes, there is just so much that can be explored about what people like him go through that's new and fresh, so many things to learn. It's such a waste of potential to not have stories that dare to approach this topic.
Yes, i saw it. You corrected yourself within the next comment, which i upvoted. This is the exact reason visibility to these people is necessary, so it's normalized. I understand that from how little contact we all have with them, it can be a bit confusing and even uncomfortable at first. The fact society neglects to aknowledge their existence, means that a lot of us don't know how to properly interact with them in a respectful manner.
Is hiros route update available for Android yet?
yes!
Hiro's route is fantastic, theirs this lost sense of dramatic irony that makes his route more intriguing, but to me if you translate what everyone says, kind of loses that aspect of how Grey feels in situations where he feels lost. The hints the story gives along the way, is like the story allowing you to see the full puzzle, foreshadowing what might happen later on in the chapters. Overall this VN is indeed my favorites. every route has me quenched for more.
Do you plan on following a set pattern for whose routes get updated in each coming update, or will you pick one of them at random?
! Spoilers !
Hiro looks to be transgender since he had his chest surgery and Grey commented on his wide hips.
Maybe you shouldn't say it at all.
You have your right to speak your mind. There's nothing wrong with that.
And, dissapointment? I won't mince my words: after this update my interest in Hiro dropped to zero, sadly. I may follow the route just for the writing, tho.
Same, dude. At first I liked his charming character and wit, the way he acted, and also I really like his appearance. But when we found out he might be trans… it was very, very unexpected and confusing. Maybe it's just not my thing. I thought about it for a while and I think it doesn't really matter. It's good if you like him as a good character and not just as a sexual interest. You may not like trans, and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't hate or harm anyone. Peace.
I was kinda hoping the chest wound was some work-related injury, and both the hips and "smell" thing some related to foxes and the like.
Honestly, I feel a lot like when Shang fell in love with Ping...only to realize that he had been deceived and that the "he" was actually a "she".
And my major issue is how...out of place his...particular situation seems to be. That sort of surgeries are from the 50's onwards. Seeing it on the mid-30s (the zeppelins around make it impossible being a later date) is a bit hard to believe.
All of this makes his condition feel a bit forced and quite shoehorned in, as it makes no sense, at least in that specific date. If his route were to take place, say, on the 70s, it wouldn't be an issue.
I probably overlooked that. I always associate the term "experimental" in surgeries with cancer, life-threatening injuries or congenital issues.
Though, there is a small issue *coughs and hums* that must be noticed even if we ignore the primary and secondary sexual characteristics. Unless male and female foxes just happen to have the same pitch of voices.
With all this said, that doesn't makes my dissapointment smaller. What is done, is done, since it was the writer's prerrogative after all.
Testosterone usage generally started in the late 1930's, but even without that, voice training has been done for a very long time.
Overall I think it's sad that some lgbtq members still don't accept trans people but oh well
Oh, so I don't have the right to be dissapointed, then? It's more of a personal preferences thing, than anything else.
Hiro still has appeal from a narrative standpoint, if anything.
I dont know why no one saying this but music is AMAZING. Theme in the contrusction stasion is so good
ok ive decided to only play this game at night, i tried playing during morning right now but i feel as if the creepy vibes + everything else just comes off so much more better at night.
Every update just makes me want more! More! AHHH!! MORE!!!
This game has some crazy moments, and I love it!
why not Hiro .-.
I once thought the same about Cliff in the smoke room, but now his story line is my favorite of the four... I think the down votes are more for the fact that the authors of these stories work so hard to entertain us and no one wants to see anything that might disparage them from doing so.
Well this comment thread has at least one dick in it. Unfortunately, it's you.
This update made Hiro drop a few places in several people's list it seems.
i dont know what the fuck i was getting into, but it wasnt fucking this. i made it to the first major choice i had to make, and i legitimately did not want to choose. In the course of about an hour this made me feel anxiety, terrified me, and even tear up. bad choice to decide to play when i was about to sleep, cause now i ain't sleeping. dont know what you did, but please keep it up
I absolutely LOVE this vn, keep doing amazing work Nikko <3
First Mark route with cappuccino shitlike, and then Gabriel with ww2 call italians koopa jokes
You do have to consider the discrimination and bias that was more evident in past decades, so he's probably trying to be more historically accurate.
I am literally italian lmao
Thanks for clarifying, sorry if i misunderstood. I played days ago enjoyed the game but was a little sceptical, and you're right our/italy past and performance wasn't so good and today can be bad too.. Searching now i seeing you're Rosato creator comic artwork lol. My bad 3:
Did Kens route and lord have mercy, yall make a good story. His route made me me freaking shiver. It is so goooddd so far
OK, i'm doing marks route and im seeing a pattern here. I didn't realize how DARK dark this could get LOL
Will there be a virgil route? cause omfgg please
CHUG OMFG THE HIMBO CUTIE DX I LOVE HIM!
You won't have to restart to access old save files after route selection.
Is there no Yasahiro route? Or has it just not been released yet?
its coming soon!
WOOOOOOOO
Honestly, since the first day of October, I always check this site every single day, looking for a new update...
Bro Gabe's route just feels like my life I fuckin love this vn
Just did Gabe's route, and damn I love him so much
Sorry but which one?
God dude I love this VN I've only done marks route but I love it so much
Love this game so much but can you please make more save files ?
I believe once you go past the normal 10 pages it will go further, but ideally people tend to overwrite old saves with new ones so you shouldn't need more than a few pages ma
oh ok thanks I didn't know about that. And again I really love this VN so much I found out about this VN from Blaidd it's thanks to him I was able to find this great VN. Please keep up the great work 😁👍
how do you delete saves? i was wanting to move them around to make space to keep saves for each character separate but i don't see a way to delete the old ones after doing that. only way to save over it?
Scroll over to the save with your mouse and hit the Del button. It should ask if you wish to delete the save. Note: this is for windows. I'm not sure how on other devices, I've only got a windows computer.
ok works. now i wonder if you even can on phone now
I haven't completed Mark's route yet, as he's being covered by a YouTuber I'm watching, but Ken and Gabriel's routes were very good. I'm excited for the next updates, and I'll check out the side stories once the youtuber finishes what's there of Mark's route cause I'm pretty sure he'll be involved from what I accidentally caught from the not-so-well-hidden spoilers below.
who is this YouTuber?
i'm always in search of a new FVN LP
Blaidd Llwyd
oh i watch him vivian jade, drakewinggaming, fallenwolf. depends who done video and game. blaidd is good for these kind of games but seems to be slower to do videos. vivian is good if you can get past some of the humor and stuff. drakewinggaming good but videos kinda short to me and stops at odd times because uses timer and stops after that. since you asked him thought you would like to know some i follow i guess.
Just 'finished' 'all' routes of Burrows. I'm glad that this VN has completely different story in each routes. I often get too attached to a routes on every VNs, to the point I can't take another routes. I'll wait patiently the last main love-interest in public release. When and where Grey will be dropped in this new route? How's the look of his card?
Note: I think, I found a plot hole in Ken's route. There is no conversation about the current year in his route. They only talked about Ken's age and it suddenly jotted in the timeline. Isn't supposed Grey didn't know what time is his in when we choose Ken's route yet, right?
i don't think the timeline only shows what Grey knows
making the math with Ken's age and DoB shows that Ken's route is on 1958
Well, you have a point. It's help me to know when is Ken route happens. Even with those clues (Ken's age and DoB shows that you mentioned), I don't know what time is Grey in. I don't have any ideas what America looks like on 1958.
! some spoilers !
Mark my man what in the crazy ass bitch omg, since the beginning Mark looked like he had some shady things goin on, the way he spoke and openess to someone that could be easely manipulated got me worried really quick and oh damn It was worse than I thouth. I'm loving the characthers and the way the story is being told aside from the CRAZY good art of Nikko. Really one of the best VN's :D